Morris Minor vs Triumph Herald
Re: Morris Minor vs Triumph Herald
I sort-of agree. Bunging a big modern engine in one does mean it is no longer a classic car however they can be fun in their own right.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Re: Morris Minor vs Triumph Herald
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Re: Morris Minor vs Triumph Herald
It's shocking how much people spend on modernising a classic car!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ANYcjCGzPM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ANYcjCGzPM
Re: Morris Minor vs Triumph Herald
Ooh! V8 noises. Crisis time. 
I'd enjoy a sidevalve Minor with period mods, like the one with the Alta OHV conversion and Aquaplane inlet manifold that appeared in PC some years ago. Yes, I'd also enjoy one with a Marina 1300 c/w Borg Warner 65 transmission but that modded lowlight car was thought to be every bit as quick as most A series upgraded cars and I like the idea that someone would have spent their overtime on just such a thing back in the fifties.
There's a member on this very forum who's created some spectacular Minors including a very standard-looking front wheel drive one with transverse modern(ish) Peugeot Diesel engine. Much as I enjoy simple RWD handling, that car sticks in my mind as one of the cleverer modified Minors out there and the MMOC has always welcomed even the most extreme examples of re-engineered cars into its fold.
The real challenge, however, comes in modifying something for which there are no precedents and few parts available.
Like that Volvo 244GLT that had been turned into a tractor which appeared in another thread recently.
I'd enjoy a sidevalve Minor with period mods, like the one with the Alta OHV conversion and Aquaplane inlet manifold that appeared in PC some years ago. Yes, I'd also enjoy one with a Marina 1300 c/w Borg Warner 65 transmission but that modded lowlight car was thought to be every bit as quick as most A series upgraded cars and I like the idea that someone would have spent their overtime on just such a thing back in the fifties.
There's a member on this very forum who's created some spectacular Minors including a very standard-looking front wheel drive one with transverse modern(ish) Peugeot Diesel engine. Much as I enjoy simple RWD handling, that car sticks in my mind as one of the cleverer modified Minors out there and the MMOC has always welcomed even the most extreme examples of re-engineered cars into its fold.
The real challenge, however, comes in modifying something for which there are no precedents and few parts available.
Like that Volvo 244GLT that had been turned into a tractor which appeared in another thread recently.
J
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Re: Morris Minor vs Triumph Herald
I read a short passage about the Triumph Vitesse 2L, which it seems was never offered as an estate car. It crossed my mind that with a 2.5 engine, an estate version could have been something of a Scimitar competitor.
I know that later Vitesse cars benefited from the revised rear suspension but bearing in mind that the chassis was originally designed to take the 948 engine, would a 2.5 six have been too much for it
Was this a missed opportunity or a sensible exercise in caution
In the same book, I was quite impressed to see that Standard 8s were available with overdrive. Standard/Triumph liked their overdrives (And so do I)
I know that later Vitesse cars benefited from the revised rear suspension but bearing in mind that the chassis was originally designed to take the 948 engine, would a 2.5 six have been too much for it
Was this a missed opportunity or a sensible exercise in caution
In the same book, I was quite impressed to see that Standard 8s were available with overdrive. Standard/Triumph liked their overdrives (And so do I)
Rules exist for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
MG Midget 1500, MGB GT V8, Morris Minor Traveller 1275, MG Midget 1275 & too many bicycles.
MG Midget 1500, MGB GT V8, Morris Minor Traveller 1275, MG Midget 1275 & too many bicycles.
Re: Morris Minor vs Triumph Herald
There were some official Vitesse estates, like this, one of those genuine cars:
OK, so Canley didn't complete them, but these are nonetheless recognised and written up at the DVA as Vitesse Estates.
The order for this one was placed in the normal way and build completed by a large dealership bodyshop down in that London and there is someone on here who knows how many were built as they mentioned it in the thread I started about this car on the date shewn in the picture.
OK, so Canley didn't complete them, but these are nonetheless recognised and written up at the DVA as Vitesse Estates.
The order for this one was placed in the normal way and build completed by a large dealership bodyshop down in that London and there is someone on here who knows how many were built as they mentioned it in the thread I started about this car on the date shewn in the picture.
J
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Re: Morris Minor vs Triumph Herald
I wonder has anyone dropped in a 2.5
There were some Morris Minors, built from spares by dealers, after production had ended but not (So far as I know) on the scale of the Ledbury Maestros.
There were some Morris Minors, built from spares by dealers, after production had ended but not (So far as I know) on the scale of the Ledbury Maestros.
Rules exist for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
MG Midget 1500, MGB GT V8, Morris Minor Traveller 1275, MG Midget 1275 & too many bicycles.
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Re: Morris Minor vs Triumph Herald
I have a vague recollection of "Hot Car" in the late 60's to mid 70's and the editor (Tony Bostock IIRC) has a Vitesse (reg no: GAY 40) that he had upgraded to 2.5. I seem to remember that he had problems with the compression ratio being too high - I don't remember what engine the car had before the "improvement" and I don't think he was with the mag for long after that. Someone called "Ian Wearing" (or something like that) took over and the mag headed towards the "Custom Car" type of magazine rather than it's original "tune up and go faster" style, so I got bored with it!
Mind you, I ha bought a Maxi by then and I didn't think it would look good with hiked rear suspension with big wheels. There again, the rear suspension was high for years until a friend put new bushes in and cured the problem while he was doing that job!
Mind you, I ha bought a Maxi by then and I didn't think it would look good with hiked rear suspension with big wheels. There again, the rear suspension was high for years until a friend put new bushes in and cured the problem while he was doing that job!
Re: Morris Minor vs Triumph Herald
Doubtless it's as easy as swapping between any other two engines that are basically similar, what I don't get is why any Vitesse owner would want to replace that lovely sweet 1600 or 2 litre with the massively undersquare 2500.
I have seen an Innsbruck with a 2.6 OHC out of an SD1 though, its owner swore by it but then he'd never had to shim up an OHC after it had performed its party piece.
I have seen an Innsbruck with a 2.6 OHC out of an SD1 though, its owner swore by it but then he'd never had to shim up an OHC after it had performed its party piece.
J
"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true..
"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true..
Re: Morris Minor vs Triumph Herald
have you considered the renault 4? or the 6??