Where have all the good scrapyards gone?

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Mitsuru
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Where have all the good scrapyards gone?

#1 Post by Mitsuru »

as the title says where have all the good scrapyards gone?

Just been to Newton's scrapyard in wingate my friendly cheap second hand car parts supplier,
NOT anymore!!!!!!

I bought 2 complete front seats out of a volvo v70 for £15 each a couple of months back.
Today just for the foam cushion off one volvo seat they wanted £10 and that is with me taking
it off, of course they didn't tell me the price till after I had spent time removing the foam cushion
from the seat in the car as I couldn't get the door open wide enough to get the seat out.
The cost of just the foam cushion £10

I will not be going back there again the good guys have left and the new guys have no customer
service skills what so ever!

So The idea of listing the good guys and the ones to avoid springs to mind!
I'm Diabetic,& disabled BUT!! NOT DEAD YET!!
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#2 Post by TerryG »

You can haggle but now they have the rest of the seat which is useless to them. With that in mind, £10 for the formed foam doesn't sound too bad to me. H&S has killed off a lot of the traditional scrap yards as walking between rows of cars piled 4 high is frowned upon. Have you watched scrappers on BBC1? I wouldn't buy anything from that bunch of cowboys with the "service" that is shown on there.
Saying that, my local breakers is superb. They have every car in stock indexed on their system with every available part and pictures of every body panel. Normally you can't go in to the yard (they sometimes make exceptions if you want to view lots of stuff) which may annoy some people but they can show you the parts on their computer and you only ever have to wait 15 - 20 minutes and they bring them to you with most of the muck removed. If it is what they said you can pay and go, if it isn't or is damaged then you can haggle or leave it and walk out. No hard feelings or hostility. Much more like going to a motor factors than a breakers yard these days.
There are 2 local ford specialists that work in the same way. No yard browsing but they know what stock they have and can serve you anything from a side repeater to a gearbox in less time than it takes you to drink the complimentary tea.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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#3 Post by Phil P »

A lot of scrap yards have gone because they have had to concrete their yards and comply with various rules about draining oil etc . The local council busy bodies and HSE have killed the trade. Those that are still in existence charge a fortune for bits to cover their licenses and Council Tax costs.
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#4 Post by Mitsuru »

Terry the car was moved into a row to be crushed tomorrow (thats what I was told) and the
cushion cover was in a bad way but the foam was half decent, even if the back of the sear was
totalled!

I used to go to a big one in Pallion, Sunderland and called Sunderland metals but they switched
from dismantling cars for parts to shoving them through the shredder when the scrapage
scheme was running!

The same goes for a few others I used to use not the bureaucracy or the cost of meeting
requirements but lunacy of the scrapage scheme!

So now the question is where are all the good scrapyards?
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#5 Post by TerryG »

This is the general breakers which I was referring to:
http://www.autolinemotors.co.uk/

I can only find a web address for one of the ford places:
http://www.mondeospares.co.uk/

They are both incredibly helpful.

When I want a part, I normally go to www.breakersyard.com and fill in the request form. You normally get half a dozen quotes from different yards within a few hours.

Lots of breakers also advertise on ebay, it is worth looking for "Chrysler neon breaking" (as an example) sorting by distance and noting down the contact details for the companies closest to you that are breaking cars.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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#6 Post by tractorman »

I suspect that part of the problem is that few bother to use scrapyards now: you can get a good car for £300 with MOT (my friend sold his 2001 Vectra for that) and £100 or more if you weigh your car in - why go to the effort of stripping worn and dirty bits off an old car and have all the hassle of trying to get it to go on yours and discovering that it only lasts a few weeks before it fails too?

What "normal" (ie an everyday owner - not an enthusiast) person wants to spend hours at a breaker's pulling out worn parts in the pouring rain - especially if the replacement doesn't last more than a few months?

Then, as others have said, legislation has demanded much more work for the breakers and the demand for used parts is falling, so why not just sling the car into the crusher - much less labour, quicker and tidier (so they don't need big yards).

Another consideration is the "eBay factor" - people will buy stuff on eBay, and are prepared to sit at their computer, press the "Buy It Now" button and wait for the (expensive) part to arrive and they don't waste time searching a yard or get their hands dirty (or get spanner rash) in the process. With online buying from cheap parts places like ECP or GSF, why spend almost as much for a worn part? That friend used to spend hours going to breakers for parts, now he sits at home, clicks a few buttons and has new stuff delivered to his door.

Remember that modern cars are white goods - throw away items - and not like the things our parents had that needed lots of expensive parts and maintenance on a regular basis. They are so much more durable than they were thirty of forty years ago and there are not as many DIY-types about. It would be interesting to know how many copies of "Car Mechanics" are sold these days - I don't know if the other three or four popular car magazines are still produced now - that would be an indicator of how many people still do their own car maintenance!

There is a difference between an enthusiast and those who just use the car as a means of transport. I suspect most owners fall into the latter category (I do with the Golf!). Most enthusiasts will look for a genuine part (or good pattern) for a restoration - it is the "custom car" person that looks for alternative parts to modify their vehicle (to make it different to others) - that's where you need to be able to see the part rather than look at a photo on eBay (or wherever).
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