Rear seat belts in a classic

[kevin]

What are my options for fitting rear seat belts in my 1965 singer vogue?

Many thanks

Kev

[Penguin45]

If you are the unfortunate owner of miniature humans do what ever it takes to fit belts.

Larger humans can make a value judgement based on age, experience and how you drive.

P45.

[kevin]

If you are the unfortunate owner of miniature humans do what ever it takes to fit belts.

Larger humans can make a value judgement based on age, experience and how you drive.

P45.

Regardless of people size, i wouldnt allow some1 to sit behind me in a car without a seat belt
may try and to fit some lap belts

[TerryG]

I suppose it depends on a few things:
look or functionality (static "original looking" or inertia reel)
lap belts, 3, 4 or 5 point
the available mounting points.

I don't know if your singer has a suitable mounting place for the reel of a modern inertia belt or factory mounting points for belts at all. You may be forced to static lap belts if there isn't a reasonably large metal parcel shelf behind the rear seat. Personally I would go for the safety of a modern 3 point inertia belt on each seat (including upgrading the original front ones).
If you go for inertia reels you need to make sure you order the correct type (horizontal or vertical mounting) or they won't work. If there are no factory mounting points, most after market classic seatbelt kits come with spreader plates to go on the back of whatever you bolt them to. If you have a friendly local MOT tester, draw on where you are thinking about mounting the belts to and ask if he thinks it is acceptable before drilling any holes.

[suffolkpete]

It is unlikely that mounting points would be provided for rear belts, as the car only just falls within the requirement for front belts. Rear belts, if fitted, are not testable in the MoT, although it makes sense to mount them securely with spreader plates. An unrestrained adult rear seat passenger could kill a front seat occupant in a head-on collision at as little as 30 mph. One of the first things I did when I acquired my Rover P6 was to fit rear belts, although factory mountings were provided for front and rear belts on this model right from its introduction. It has an inertia reel on the rear parcel shelf, with the other mounting points on the floor between the seats and on the inner sill.

[tractorman]

I would certainly try to get 3-point belts in if I could as, IMHO, lap-belts aren't a great idea - they can cause severe back injuries to those who wear them. I wouldn't go in the middle of the back seat of a modern with a lap belt!

I suspect it won't take a lot to make a suitable mount on the parcel shelf - even if you hat to put as box-section stay to the boot floor for reinforcement. As others say, spreader plates will reinforce most mounting points.

I'm writing as an owner of a Land Rover that only has two lap belts at the moment! I have a pair of 3-point belts and a set of mounting plates/points to fit as the lap belts are only through the aluminium seat base (without reinforcement). That is one reason I am not using the Landy - I haven't had the time to sort it!

[mach1rob]

You could get universal kits, you'll probably need to drill suitable holes, then strengthen the area either with welded on tabs, or large washers to spread the load.

Would something like this be suitable?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/360620669641