do High Torque starters draw more or less current?

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TerryG
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do High Torque starters draw more or less current?

#1 Post by TerryG »

Long story cut short, I need to replace the starter on my RR (again!) as it is over-drawing. It is a high torque motor which turns the engine over nice and quickly (or it did until it broke). Looking at replacements it is claimed that they "use up to 40% less current". Is that gibberish or is a high torque motor genuinely more efficient so requires fewer amps to start than a standard one? My suspicion is they draw the same number of amps but the sales blurb suggests that they start your engine quicker so need to run for less time.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Re: do High Torque starters draw more or less current?

#2 Post by suffolkpete »

The current drawn by an electric motor increases as it slows down under load, so I would guess that the high torque version doesn't slow down as much and therefore doesn't draw as much current under heavy load, although I can't see how this can be achieved without sacrificing speed, since power and hence the current drawn is a function of torque and speed.. I wish now I'd paid more attention in machines lectures, it's the only part of my 1960s electrical engineering degree that hasn't been rendered obsolete by subsequent developments :cry:
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Re: do High Torque starters draw more or less current?

#3 Post by Wicksy »

If your "high torque" starter is of the geared type it will use less amps than the direct drive design. The reason being that the reduction gear ratio of about 4 to 1 and the increased mecanical advantage allows for a smaller motor to be used :geek: Put simply, small higher speed motor, slower higher torque pinion and less current to drive it :lol:
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Re: do High Torque starters draw more or less current?

#4 Post by TerryG »

Well, it is shiny, new and looks like a motor with a gearbox so we shall see if it is any better than my old one when I fit it tomorrow (snow permitting)
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£277 from ratsport, I hope it isn't money wasted.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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