Alternator for a Landrover

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Alternator for a Landrover

#1 Post by SirTainleyBarking »

The Alternator on the Series 3 has decided to pack up. Charge light is staying on during running, and the voltage across the battery doesn't move up any higher than 10v or so, so I'm looking for a replacement.

The big green Bible (Landrover series 3 Repair Operation Manual) says the alternator is a good old 16ACR, however when I pulled the old one off it states its a LRA100.

Are these interchageable, a later version or remanufacture, or is a LRA100 a different beastie that hasn't really got a replacement on the lucas inventory?

(Basically if I can use a 16ACR, 17ACR or a LRA100, LRA101 etc it gives me more options of getting a cheap replacement to bung on)
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#2 Post by JPB »

LRA 100 is the Lucas part number for that alternator, any ACR17 or 18 will be exactly the same in physical appearance and electrical characteristics.
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#3 Post by Luxobarge »

Gah, I don't know, you young people and your throw-away society.... Why not fix the old one? Probably just the brushes, or the regulator....

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#4 Post by Wicksy »

Fixed my 18 with a £15 kit of bearings, voltage control and brush pack from the bay. Basically all you need is a decent small bearing puller, a vice and a soldering iron.The instructions came with the kit, for the electrically challenged amongst us, which is me :lol:
Tricky bit is desoldering the wires to the slip ring and reattaching them to the new ring in the kit but I found the rest straightforward enough - saves you about £45 on a new alternator and it's fun to do.
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#5 Post by mr rusty »

You could just fit a new set of brushes, not difficult. Or you could just chuck it in the bin and get a Lucas A127, very common in the scrappies. They look pretty similar to ACR's and superseded them although they still luckily share the ACR 3 pin plug. The A127's output is a lot higher and a much better regulated. You can change the brushpack in situ too in around a minute provided you have access.
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#6 Post by SirTainleyBarking »

Well I can get hold of a 17ACR for around £30-40, or a kit for £15. For speed I'll probably get a replacement for now, as I have something interesting in mind for the old alternator once I've replaced it.
Either that or something suitable with a lucas connector from the scrappy (When they're open of course)

ETA: took the cover off:( 2 x 7/16" bolts )

Brushes are perfect, No nasty niffs or scorches, One HUGE dead spider, I'm thinking reg pack or rectifier has decided to kark it. Oh well, lets see what I can get my hands on first
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#7 Post by SirTainleyBarking »

Picked up a LRA100 on the bay for £28, and spent an hour fiddling it on. I now have a spare to rebuild at my leisure, which is nice.
(I did give the spider a decent burial)
Just need a spare pulley and fan, cos that is a bugger to get off. One tip I do have If you want to get the nut off the end of the shaft, A Clarke 12V electric impact wrench does seem to work quite well. Might try it on other bits as well.
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#8 Post by JPB »

Just in case you find yourself having to swap alternator pulleys at some time in the future:

Put an old fan belt around the pulley that you want to remove, grip the belt in a vice to hold the pulley still and you'll get it apart with a regular 1/2" drive ratchet and suitable socket. ;)
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#9 Post by TerryG »

That is a great tip, i wish i had thought of that before trashing my pulley last year :S
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#10 Post by SirTainleyBarking »

JPB wrote:Just in case you find yourself having to swap alternator pulleys at some time in the future:

Put an old fan belt around the pulley that you want to remove, grip the belt in a vice to hold the pulley still and you'll get it apart with a regular 1/2" drive ratchet and suitable socket. ;)
I've tried that approach in the past (Rover 115 SLD) and to be fair it works but takes a lot of effort. I had trouble pinching the belt tight enough.
I picked up the rattle gun approach from the rebuilders who supplied the Rover's replacement. Took in the old one and compared pulleys. Guy behind the counter said, "Ooh not quite the same are they, hang on a sec" - He kept a rattle gun under the work top, changed them over in under a minute, compared to the half hour it took me to get the old 'un shifted
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