MoT test exemption - it's official!

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MoT test exemption - it's official!

#1 Post by Luxobarge »

Our vintage car club has just recieved a letter from the DVLA regarding this issue. I can't post up the letter here, but the text is as follows:

Pre-1960 Vehicles

I am writing to notify you of a change in legislation that may impact a number of your members. From 18 November 2012, vehicles manufactured before 1 January 1960 will become exempt from the requirements to have a mandatory MoT test. I can confirm that these vehicles will still be required to be in a roadworthy condition when used on a public road. Keepers of pre-1960 vehicles will still be able to take a voluntary MoT test at all approved testing stations if they wish to do so.
This means that on or after 18 November 2012, keepers of vehicles who need to tax their pre-1960 vehicle(s) will not need to produce a valid MOT pass certificate when applying for a tax disc. Any application to tax via the Post Office or Local Office will require a completed V112 (Declaration of exemption from MoT testing) where the customer declares that their vehicle is exempt. In addition, the DVLA electronic vehicle licensing system will enable customers with pre-1960 vehicles to tax without a MoT from 18 November 2012.
This exemption will also apply to vehicles where a date of manufacture is not on the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency (DVLA) system, but the date of registration is recorded as being on or before 7 January 1960. We also apply this policy to the qualification criteria for the pre-1973 Vehicle Excise Duty exemption.
I can confirm that the Agency will continue to allow pre-1960 vehicles to either transfer or retain their registration mark using the current cherished transfer scheme provided a voluntary MoT has been passed. This is to ensure that vehicles are still in existence and prevent potential fraudulent claims for attractive marks.
Where keepers believe their current vehicle should be exempt due to the law change but their Vehicle Registration Certificate (V5C) does not reflect this they will need to write to the DVLA to request a change. The address to write to is DVLA, Swansea, SA99 1BA.
In order to ensure the accuracy and integrity of the vehicle records held at the DVLA, it is important that evidence provided to amend or add information already held on our system is accurate and truly reflects the vehicle for which it is issued. Therefore it has been decided that for these specific cases, requests will only be considered where it has been accompanied with either an extract from the manufacturer/factory record or an extract from the appropriate ‘Glass’s Check Book’. Both these documents will have a direct link to the chassis number that should already have been accepted and recorded on the vehicle record as part of the initial registration process.
I can confirm that for these specific cases, DVLA will not accept general dating certificates as evidence to amend or update the date of manufacture. Such certificates will however, continue to be accepted for other purposes such as V765 claims and requests for age related numbers for recently restored or recently imported vehicles.
I trust this explains the situation.

Yours sincerely

Sent unsigned via e-mail

Claire Rush

Corporate Affairs Directorate


Just thought you may like to know it's now official. Anybody who wants a PDF copy of the letter, PM me your e-mail address and I'll send it to you.

Cheers! :D
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#2 Post by OneCarefulOwner »

I'd like to say I called it with regards to registration transfer rules :)
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#3 Post by ancient briton »

Just need to find another use for my stockpile of chicken mesh and filler :lol: :lol: .
On a more serious note, This has got to be the worst decision they could have made, Admittedly the majority of owners of pre 60s vehicles wont misuse the new system but there will be those who will.
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#4 Post by Martin Evans »

I agree and I fear it will lead some to assume that old cars are not safe (Some do that as it is :roll: ). I shoukd like to know what is special about 1960; is a 1959 MGA or Forgeye Sprite much different to a 1960 model :?: More sensible (Assuming there is a need to change the present system) would be a move to an MOT every ten thousand miles or every three years, whichever is the sooner (And apply it to vehicles of all ages).
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#5 Post by JPB »

Martin Evans wrote:......More sensible (Assuming there is a need to change the present system) would be a move to an MOT every ten thousand miles or every three years, whichever is the sooner (And apply it to vehicles of all ages).
That sounds about right as my modern will have covered 120,000 miles by the time its first MOT falls due in 2014. Obviously it's looked after and anything needed before then will be done but all the same, emergency vehicles and hacks have to be tested sooner so why not the rest of us?
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#6 Post by suffolkpete »

Martin Evans wrote:More sensible (Assuming there is a need to change the present system) would be a move to an MOT every ten thousand miles or every three years, whichever is the sooner (And apply it to vehicles of all ages).
The problem with that idea is that it would be impossible to police as there is no way that officialdom would know when the test is due.
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I'd need an MOT every 4 months doing that :S
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#8 Post by kstrutt1 »

Is this a rolling date or another artificial point in time.?

As the owner of a 1973 car of 1558cc and a 1961 car am I going to miss out on this forever as well!

I calculated the other day gordon brown freezing free road tax at 1973 has cost me around 3 grand so far.!

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#9 Post by rich. »

cars will still have to be in a roadworthy condition, other wise mr plod will make a fortune...
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#10 Post by Martin Evans »

suffolkpete wrote:
Martin Evans wrote:More sensible (Assuming there is a need to change the present system) would be a move to an MOT every ten thousand miles or every three years, whichever is the sooner (And apply it to vehicles of all ages).
The problem with that idea is that it would be impossible to police as there is no way that officialdom would know when the test is due.
Perhaps so but if you were found to have exceeded the permitted mileage, since the last MOT, you would face a fine (The three year part would be clear). The database would soon build up data on the kinds of mileage being done by certain vehicles (Though of course changes of ownership and circumstances would have an effect).

Not being the owner of a "Modern" car, I don't know how easy it is to fiddle the odometer or disconnect it (Do they still use cables or is it now computerised?). If it's easy to do, then perhaps the system would fall down. If it could be made to work (Even if a few slipped through the net, as I'm sure they do now.....I expect there are still some MOTless and uninsured vehicles out there), it would make more sense; surely a 30000 mile per annum vehicle requires more scrutiny than a 3000 miler, irrespective of age. Up to a point, the system would need goodwill and trust, just like limited mileage classic insurance policies. Don’t forget, if you fiddle these, then in essence, you are invalidating your insurance. I would concede that your average classic owner maybe less inclined to meddle with the odometer, for dishonest reasons, than some sections of the automotive community.
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