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Re: In the workshop at present
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:35 pm
by Grumpy Northener
Those hinge pins look really complicated, I always thought door pins were just sort of non-threaded bolts, if that makes sense?
Probably the quickest and easiest doors to change / hang on a vehicle ever - just a pair of door hinge plates on the B post that both the front and rear doors hang from - remove the two pins and off come the doors - literally in seconds - hinge pins on some classics can be swine's - Escort / Cortina's / Capri's required a hinge pin removal tool - quite often the pins would seize & break requiring lots of heat to remove them from the hinge block

Re: In the workshop at present
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:32 pm
by harvey
Grumpy Northener wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2017 12:35 pm
Probably the quickest and easiest doors to change / hang on a vehicle ever - just a pair of door hinge plates on the B post that both the front and rear doors hang from - remove the two pins and off come the doors - literally in seconds -
To be better than the hinges on your P6B they'd have to be good. One locknut and a screw pin (and a checklink) and the door is off.
Re: In the workshop at present
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 7:46 pm
by Grumpy Northener
To be better than the hinges on your P6B they'd have to be good. One locknut and a screw pin (and a checklink) and the door is off.
Harvey - Being a long standing P6 owner I can only but agree with you but both the doors on the Javelin hang through the same pin - hence are super quick to hang / remove
Re: In the workshop at present
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2017 4:51 pm
by vulgalour
Engineered well, rather than cheaply, as is the Jowett way.
Re: In the workshop at present
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:28 pm
by Grumpy Northener
So work continues apace - started to sort the bonnet which split on the edges where the cutouts / rebates allow for clearance of the front wing screws - I made up a couple of angles then fastened in place by spot welding - once done I used the mig to weld the splits in the bonnet before cleaning back gently with a flap wheel on the angle grinder
Re: In the workshop at present
Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 8:44 pm
by Grumpy Northener
Also spent a little time adjusting the bonnet and checking that the catch / striker plate & keep worked, then on to the boot lid - these are awkward being of an alloy inner frame with a steel outer skin (means I could not get it dipped with the rest of the panels) - got the fit has good has I could (they tend to spread on the wrap round to the upper section) - now needs stripping of paint & some of the drilled holes will require welding up prior to any making good / re-profiling, further to this I need to repair part of the alloy fame on the underside of the boot but this is all hidden by a liner cover. Meanwhile the re-profiling continues on the nearside - I am about 60% of the way through it at present

Re: In the workshop at present
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:09 pm
by Grumpy Northener
So got the boot lid stripped (paint stripper) then sanded back with the DA - can't believe the amount of rust that they just clagged / painted over - although the panel is sound - god has it had a life - the pot marks are where the outer skin has been punched down due to the fact that skin is stretched - fair bit of lead loading here and there - it's going to end up completely skimmed with filler to get it right but this is a very rare panel
Re: In the workshop at present
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:19 pm
by Grumpy Northener
Going to have to weld several previously drilled holes for number plate mounting / non original lamps etc, meanwhile the nearside profiling is now close to completion - this has taken longer than offside due to the state of the panels especially the doors

Re: In the workshop at present
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:59 pm
by vulgalour
The alloy frame you mention, is that fabricated or cast? Seems a bit odd to have a steel skin on an alloy frame and not the other way around if the frame isn't a cast item. In the pictures the bootlid doesn't look too bad, I guess it will when we see the filler work going on.
Re: In the workshop at present
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2017 10:27 pm
by Grumpy Northener
The alloy frame you mention, is that fabricated or cast? Seems a bit odd to have a steel skin on an alloy frame and not the other way around if the frame isn't a cast item. In the pictures the bootlid doesn't look too bad, I guess it will when we see the filler work going on.
So here is the underside of the boot lid - it's just a pressed frame from a alloy sheet - really odd is the fact that its alloy frame / steel skinned - the steel being stronger tends to spread the frame - normally it's the reverse i.e. steel frame with an alloy skin - in reality neither works as two dissimilar metals in contact with each other - hence the alloy tends to corrode
