MGB GT V8 build. **SOLD**

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Re: MGB GT V8 build..

#71 Post by 3xpendable »

Most of the main bodyshell was covered in red oxide primer that, having been on the car at least 5 years, was beginning to go powdery and also show some slight rust through in places. After some debating I thought the best thing to be sure is to just strip it all off. So after spending about 10 hours sanding and flatting the body its now nearly ready for paint. (Roof was done after these pics)

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During this process some minor surface rust areas have appeared that need treating. So after flatting I found a brilliant tool, called a polycarbide disc which is in between a wire brush and a grinder in terms of performance. So I used it to flat back the metal without going too deep, in some cases it took all the rust away and in others it took all but the deepest pitting off. So I will now sant blast these small areas to get the rust off then seal them off before repairing/shaping them.

After that it should be pretty much ready for paint, finally!
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Re: MGB GT V8 build..

#72 Post by 3xpendable »

Final body prep is nearly done, hoping it will be painted one weekend in October.

In between doing that, my father and I finished fabricating the gearbox mounts and cross member for the new box (OK mainly him), which he welded up today. I like the way he has taught me to do things; for instance, we cut the old mounts off as the angle was OK then fitted everything up in situ so that we knew it would fit naturally and not have to force anything. Once that's done dad just does a few tack welds to hold the various parts, followed by proper welding after removing it. Result? it all fits perfectly so I painted it this afternoon and can fit it in a few days once its hardened.

Now onto the steel dashboard. The car I'm building started life as a later rubber bumper car which has a different dash to the steel one I want to fit from my original now donor car, the main difference is the width of the main gauges apart to make room for the collapsible column I'm told. Who said you couldn't fit a steel dash to a later car?!

This is the dash from my beloved GT that's now giving its life for another. I did think about getting a MK1 dash as I like the key in the centre but then i thought why not just modify mine? The round hole in the middle under the air vents was where I wanted the key, but the windscreen wash plunger was there so i needed to relocate that. One of the rectangular switch holes next to it just had a plastic blank inserted, so I moved the headlight switch from above the oil pressure gauge to this blank, and decided to fill in its current hole and fit the plunger there (which is where it is on early B's)

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This is the plunger hole that had to be only slightly opened up and tidied with a file to allow my new Lucas ign switch to sit in

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And here is the plunger in its new location, the welds will be tidied up before painting:

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Those who know MGB's know that the overdrive models have an overdrive switch to the far side of the fuel gauge near the drivers door. As my car has a 5 speed box now and won't be using this, I debated what to put there or just fill the hole? I;ve always wanted a start button on the car and took a long time to find one I liked. I liked the red ones you see online, but these look out of plate with the retro look I want on the car. I eventually found this lovely chrome button which is slightly recessed too, so no fear of anyone accidentally pressing it. The great thing with having this here too is I can start the car with my right hand and adjust the choke if needed with my left.

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Now that was done, I had to get it into the car! In the earlier cars, the dash serves as the mount for the steering column, but the later cars with a collapsible column don't need this, so it was cut away:
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My main concern is whether the shroud for the column would need spreading to get over it. As it turns out, it fits with room to spare!

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I nipped it up so it would be sitting correctly then checked the clearance to the dials. Here you can see the back of the speedometer, and the odometer cable will exit above the green box bar you see

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Finally I put all the gauges in, just to see how they looked, and they look gooooood :)

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I realise going this route means I will need to make a specific column cowl, but I use design packages so can get one 3D printed or just make one up of fibreglass. I will use the indicator stalk from the later cars but retain the headlight and wiper switch locations from the dash.

So tomorrow I plan to fit the crossmember, paint the underside where we had to 'dress' it for clearance, finish paint stripping the dashboard and then obviously just doing the final body prep.
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Re: MGB GT V8 build..

#73 Post by 3xpendable »

Chugging along with the body prep, it seems to be taking an age but i'm sure most of you have been there. Every time I think its pretty much ready, we find another blemish or thing that needs attention. My brother is spending a lot of time working on shaping the rear light bases as the weld on parts didn't match the profile of the lamp base at all. The other main area of concern is the scuttle which seems to have a lot of dimples and the like that need flattening. Its just turned cold too so the car may get undercoat this weekend but not top coat.

I have finished the dashboard, its painted behind and undercoated in front awaiting wrinkle paint (and warmer weather or a heater). I've been turning my attention to the doors and bonnet, the former of which are remarkably rust free and just need a flat back. I had a dilemma with the bonnets; the bonnet from the donor car looked tidier from above but had some rust inside and on the lip. The new shell bonnet was much better except it seemed to have a few filler cracks and I detest thick filler on panels but I decided to dig them out and re-do the bonnet..so that's in progress.

The last of the interior was painted last week before masking off to paint the outside, its getting there.
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Re: MGB GT V8 build..

#74 Post by 3xpendable »

Primer is on, and its all one colour :) Flatted it back today and found a few dinks so will be sorting them out tomorrow, hopefully it gets topcoat on the weekend then!

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Re: MGB GT V8 build..

#75 Post by mach1rob »

It's a good feeling when it's all one colour, even if it's grey primer :)
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Re: MGB GT V8 build..

#76 Post by 3xpendable »

Flatting back showed up a few issues and as it was only 1 layer of undercoat it went through in some places. So after another 1/2 day or so of fettling, dad put on 4 layers of undercoat yesterday and all looks good. Its being left to harden today before the car gets moved to our makeshift spray booth and gets fully masked up ready for paint next weekend, if the weather isn't too damp.

In between all that, in repayment for all his hard work, i'll be helping my brother fit his freshly built 998cc engine into his Hillman Imp during the week, now that the workshop is free and all.
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Re: MGB GT V8 build..

#77 Post by 3xpendable »

SO CLOSE!! We couldn't topcoat the car this weekend for a few reasons:

1. There were two tiny areas that reacted with old paint, so had to be flatted back and treated, then re-coated with undercoat. That was done today.
2. It was extremely windy and rainy this weekend with thunderstorms too, and with the way the polytunnel was flapping around all sorts of dust and dirt would have ended up on the car, so as stated in the previous thread its getting painted next weekend, fingers crossed!

I must admit the prep paint has been about 40 hours between my brother and I, and has really put me off doing another car! However yesterday i did 'stonechip effect' the sills and rear valence. We do this to our cars for protection and on the B its so low you don't really see it. So with that done, here is how the old girl sits now until next weekend:

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As we couldn't do anything with that, I took a gamble and had a go at wrinkle painting the dash. I bought some decent paint and had a go on some cardboard on Friday, which given it says it needs above 16ºC and <35% humidity and I used it in about 13ºC and 75% humidity, was pleasantly surprised that it wrinkled!

The tin said "if wrinkles do not appear, re-apply" so I though stuff it, why not? Whats the worst than can happen? I have a thing against paying people to do things I can do myself. I enjoy the challenge, and the fact when the car is built I can say "I did that, and that, and that was a bugger" rather than "I paid that much to have the dash done, that much on a paint job" etc.

So when it came to it, I chickened out and passed the job over to dad!! I heated the dash gently with a fan heater first then kept it heated in between each of 3 coats applied at 5 minute intervals. Even though it was an October day in Wales (check Google for how wet and windy and cold that can be), it started wrinkling pretty soon and when i left it, most of it has wrinkled. I checked it this morning and it was ace! First attempt too!!! Here is a close up

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So, it takes 24 hours to harden, and this evening I re-assembled the glove compartment lid after cleaning all the parts, and here's how it looks. The wrinkles aren't 100% uniform, but the angle this picture is taken at shows them worse than they are, and isn't an angle you'll see in the car.

I've been admiring it and the dashboard with a smug look all evening, and will start fitting relevant bits tomorrow.

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Re: MGB GT V8 build..

#78 Post by mach1rob »

I reckon that looks pretty damned good :)
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#79 Post by 3xpendable »

Before

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After!!!

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The sun was shining and there was no wind, so I was up at the crack of dawn and getting the garage warmed up and cleaned the best I could. Dad arrived and heated & mixed the paint and then I hid and left him to it while working on a Volvo (wow). Here are some more pictures:

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Its pretty good for a home job. There is some areas that picked up some dust and debris but dad put multiple coats on so there is plenty of paint to work with when buffing it up. He got one run which he was kicking himself about but he certainly did better than I could! Yes the interior and engine bay are a lighter colour but in the case of the interior you wont see it, and a V8 fills the engine bay most efficiently. I used some old paint we had from the donor car for those parts but wanted the actual car darker, and i'm pleased with it.

Now onto any paint experts. We had three areas of the car (the top rear of both rear wings and a small part of the B pillar) that reacted and wrinkled up when we put undercoat on them. The car as seen earlier had been flatted back to the original yellow top coat in most places. But these 3 areas 'pickled' when undercoated. We flatted them back and redid them and they pickled again. My brother ha the same problem on his car and cured it with a cellulose isolator. He put some on the affected areas and it seemed to cure it. A few days ago we applied undercoat to those areas again and it didn't react at all. Great, no problem. BUT it reacted with the 2 pack topcoat. Interestingly not right away, and only on ONE of the three areas affected, and the reaction was far worse than we'd ever had before. Attached is a picture of the affected area. Any ideas why its reacting? I think my only option is to go back to bare metal there.

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Re: MGB GT V8 build..

#80 Post by mach1rob »

That must have been so gutting after all the hard work, I know I'd have been a tad miffed had it happened to my nice new fresh paint. :evil:
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