1994 Range Rover

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TerryG
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Re: 1994 Range Rover

#41 Post by TerryG »

Far from the neatest welding in the world BUT
NEW METAL!!!
WOOHOO!

Windscreen frame patch
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Scuttle is now complete once more (this one was a bugger as there is a curve which is longer on one side than the other, I used the drivers side as a pattern)
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The side of the car is much more complete now. This was easy to make as it is a flat piece with funny cutouts on 2 corners but getting it in was awkward. I had to bend it to get it in then straighten it out again once in place.
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It is not welded in place fully yet but it is getting there :)
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Re: 1994 Range Rover

#42 Post by arceye »

Coming along nicely Terry :D
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Re: 1994 Range Rover

#43 Post by TerryG »

Cheers Arceye, I am making progress but it feels very slow. However you have had the patience to do the restoration work you have, I will never know!

No new pictures today as I was very rushed but in the 90 minutes I had, the new panel is now trimmed to fit properly and welded in everywhere that needs welding (ie wherever it touches another piece of metal). I have also cut out the hole in the floor ready to weld in a patch tomorrow.
A few little bits left to fill in where I found odd bits of rot plus the strip down where a seam used to be then I can wave some seam sealer about.

After all that lot is done I will have a look at the other side and remove some crappy patches I have found, cut out yet more rot and put it back together properly. I have to keep reminding myself that I do like this car when it is working and it will be worth it in the end.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
tractorman
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Re: 1994 Range Rover

#44 Post by tractorman »

Just remember Terry, you are enjoying this work!

OK, I often have to say it through gritted teeth when I'm cutting rot out - but the tractors don't have much tinwork and that's the reason I don't own classic cars!

Looking at the picture of the side panel weld, I'd say the penetration isn't far off right - enough to show through and no nasty holes! I won't say good, perfect or whatever as someone will come along and criticise it if I do!

Keep up with the good work - it makes ME feel happier!

BTW the digger bucket is now sorted, so get a move on!
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Re: 1994 Range Rover

#45 Post by JPB »

I agree entirely with the above post regarding the penetration. You're picking this welding lark up nicely by the looks of it! 8-)
Every bit as significant is that the area along the length of the weld which has blued is near as dammit parallel along the run so whether you've penetrated 100% perfectly or only 97.3% perfectly, you've done it smoothly and consistently and that's a great way to start.
J
"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true.. :oops:
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TerryG
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Re: 1994 Range Rover

#46 Post by TerryG »

Thanks for the encouragement gents. This is a long way out of my comfort zone, normally I limit myself to fixing things that require a spanner / screwdriver.
Having done a fair amount of bashing, it hasn't fallen apart. I have got some blobs which I have had to grind back. I have only blown 2 holes so far (in the car, I made lots while practicing). Making holes is much easier than fixing them.
Rain is forecast for Monday night so I hope to have it waterproof by then.
I have a bottle of thinners which I was going to use to wipe the panels down before spraying. The hard bit is going to be painting inside the box sections. I have an extension for my waxoil sprayer so I am going to blast them with that and hope for the best.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Re: 1994 Range Rover

#47 Post by tractorman »

I use Bilt Hamber's etch weld primer for metal that will be hidden when welded up (though it's probably too late to say that now)! Give the "hidden" area a coat before welding the patches in place. It's a good etch primer too! Failing that, Halfords stock aerosol cans of U-Pol primers and their weld-through stuff is recommended somewhere. The bad news it that I think it's about £15 for an aerosol can!

The trick with filling holes is to pulse the trigger almost as fast as you can so the metal hardly has time to heat up. You can guess how most of us find that out!

I have a feeling the forecast may be a little pessimistic, though I suggest that you don't trust my bad knee!
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Re: 1994 Range Rover

#48 Post by TerryG »

Well, the side of the car now looks like this (actually, it has stone chip sprayed over it but I didn't take a pic of that)
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Unfortunately, after some poking I have found lots and lots of bodge patches. My inner wing looks like this:
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The whole front end appears to be patch on patch. No pics as I was so annoyed I slapped the wing on and walked away. Tomorrow I will do the inner wing and see if I can cut the bumper off (some genius welded the brackets on after the bolts snapped (not me)) and cut out some grot from the front. I think I am going to need more welding wire, more steel and a new pair of gloves as I have burnt a hole in this pair.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Re: 1994 Range Rover

#49 Post by TerryG »

Starting where I left off yesterday, I cut out the grotty inner wing and added some new metal:
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Then some more
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And some more.
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I have used some sealer over the new welds and painted it given it is supposed to rain for the rest of the week.
I have ground off the welds holding the top of my foglamp brackets in place so I can remove the front bumper if I get a break in the weather and look to see how frilly the front panel is. Given the state of the rest of the car, I suspect very.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Re: 1994 Range Rover

#50 Post by JPB »

Your welding is coming on by leaps and bounds there Terry. I get the impression that you're enjoying it.
J
"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true.. :oops:
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