Practically Classics Forum

Richard Moss wrote:Well this one was anything but dull. Some REAL racing - wheel to wheel stuff and some audacious overtaking manoeuvres.

Absolutely so! I've been getting to the stage where I'd put F1 on in the background and do something more useful with my time, but am so glad I sat through the race yesterday as it was proper racing, almost as it was in the days of Senna and his contemporaries.

JPB wrote:

Richard Moss wrote:Well this one was anything but dull. Some REAL racing - wheel to wheel stuff and some audacious overtaking manoeuvres.

Absolutely so! I've been getting to the stage where I'd put F1 on in the background and do something more useful with my time, but am so glad I sat through the race yesterday as it was proper racing, almost as it was in the days of Senna and his contemporaries.

Best GP this year by far.

Kev

i lost interest just after senna died... rallying is much more interesting although i did start watching the mx5 championship on tv for a while.. for the last few weeks ive been watching the touring car racing there is a honda estate car which makes it interesting although sometimes its like watching a cross between bumper cars & banger racing .. meanwhile back on topic shouldnt aron have painted his calipers red.

Back on topic!
I haven't forgotten this I am still awaiting the gentleman I may have mentioned earlier to read and respond to the pm which was sent over a fortnight ago!

I made a start on the other brembo merc brake calliper, Before the wire brushes and grinder
attachments of the dremel went and attacked the tin worm.



I gave the calliper it's first coat of hammerite and the other calliper it's second coat.
Unfortunately for some reason the paint started bubbling. The callipers will be left to cure for
a few days before sanding the paint flat and applying another coat. I must remember to get
some black paint!

Uh ho.... Bad news Mitsuru ,,Lewis Hamilton's Brembo exploded today , Merc are going with Carbon Industries instead for the race tomorrow .

These came today!




It was shortly after I had placed the order and paid for them that Vitor had replied
saying "knuckle fitment is big change, that thing has to be like 1.5" wide." Well that
was £45 spent so lets see what it bought me and advise please if they are still
usable! :dunno:

Here is some info from vitors work for reference






The merc brembo 4 pot calliper bolt patternfrom inside holes 100mm outside of holes
120mm

Voyager 2003 alloy 3.3L hub I purchased with some dimensions please let me know
if there is a dimension you need from it so you can advise, as it is sitting in a box the
corner of my bedroom.











The idea was to have the bearing unit either converted to take a mk1 neon bearing and
spindle or get them custom made. I am just wondering if this is going to be far more
trouble than it's worth with these knuckles?

After posting the abpve Vitor kindly responded to it via pm on neons.org

Vitor wrote:Almost looks like pt cruiser knuckle has same caliper bracket dimension ( 130mm)

Knuckel to strut - PT - 32.xx mm

since neon is much lighter than caravan, you may be able to mill down knuckle to fit,
esp if you are not going to be any endurance racing.

Caliper bracket mounts on inside face of where you are spotting that 78mm dimension.

If they are able to be machined down to be used there is still the wish bone attachment
as there is a hole on the voyager hub but a cleat on the neon!

Vitor wrote:Converted to voyager tapared ball joint ?

I know that an adapter bracket has been done before on some lx platform mopar to fit bigger brakes but
ones I had seen mentioned advised against the use of aluminium even air craft grade (cant remember where)
Also I have seen something similar for the brembo official adapter brackets for alternative callipers!



But as the spacing of the holes is such that an adapter bracket is not feasible in this case, but might for other
callipers!

As the Voyager hub is cast alloy I will be needing to get to see the chaps at the machine shop, to see if these
hubs can be machined down without compromising their strength first before I can think of how best to proceed!

Okay back on to today's findings Flavells the machine shop I have used previously. And I had
taken one of the 2003 Voyager alloy hub. Good news, it can be machined down so it can be
used with the mk1 neon strut assembly. And it shouldn't weaken the hub structure.
Cost approximately £20 a side

The bearing assembly, which bolts into the hub will need to be taken out when they machine the
hub to the desired sepcs. Only then once teh bearing assembly has been pulled apart and
compared with a mk1 neon bearing and spindle can it be seen how best to proceed with that part
wither a new holder will need to be made or the old steel voyager one can be machined to
requirements!