End of an era?
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Richard Moss
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Re: End of an era?
Landrover's (lack of) reliability is a key factor in their (lack of) populariy amongst the off- road enthusiasts here in the UAE. Most of us drive Jeeps, Nissans, Toyotas or Mitsubishis. Interestingly, Landcruisers are not a very common choice - most of the Toyotas are FJ Cruisers
Re: End of an era?
Just for reference:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bi ... m-24446070
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bi ... m-24446070
JLR wrote:The first model in the style of the Defender was introduced in 1948 and was modelled on a World War II Jeep"
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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SirTainleyBarking
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- Location: Solihull, where Landrovers come from
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Interesting that they cite "emissions" regs.
Now considering that defenders have had a variety of engines in there (I believe the current one is out of a transit) it's inconceivable that things like particulates are the issue, as that would come down to sourcing an up to date lump.
Is this one of those, all vehicles must now emit less than arbitary value of CO2 per km?
Now considering that defenders have had a variety of engines in there (I believe the current one is out of a transit) it's inconceivable that things like particulates are the issue, as that would come down to sourcing an up to date lump.
Is this one of those, all vehicles must now emit less than arbitary value of CO2 per km?
Landrovers and Welding go together like Bread and Butter. And in the wet they are about as structurally sound
Biting. It's like kissing except there's a winner
Biting. It's like kissing except there's a winner
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The Transit engine currently in use doesn't meet the required emissions regs for 2016 so they would have to re-engineer the drive train again. It doesn't score well for pedestrian or occupant safety requirements now so it is only a matter of time before the EU squash it on those anyway. Building it is VERY labour intensive as it is largely hand built in turn making the profit margins smaller. I suspect these two things combined with it's falling market share (due in no small part to it being majorly uncomfortable to drive for long periods) is enough to make it uneconomic to continue.
It will be missed but is long overdue replacement. Land Rover have all but missed the point that the reason they are who they are is because of the Defender. If they stop producing it with no off-road orientated replacement they will just be another car manufacturer.
It will be missed but is long overdue replacement. Land Rover have all but missed the point that the reason they are who they are is because of the Defender. If they stop producing it with no off-road orientated replacement they will just be another car manufacturer.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Re: End of an era?
You would have thought that the Birmingham Post would at least know a Land Rover when it DIDN'T see one!!
http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/lo ... ne-6152188
On page4 of images appears this
with the caption of
http://www.birminghampost.co.uk/news/lo ... ne-6152188
On page4 of images appears this
with the caption of
The Queen inspects Royal 22nd regiment from a Land Rover after presenting them with their new colours in 1959.
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EricPolymath
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Re: End of an era?
For as long as I can remember every couple of years we get warned of the Defender's imminent demise. Why should we believe it this time? 
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I can almost feel the arse kicking that the editor of that paper would have received shortly after the picture was published.J
"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true..
"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true..
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Richard Moss
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On the other hand, it does make a change from journos describing Landrovers as Jeeps!JPB wrote:
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do not believe anything you read in the newspapers!!!
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mach1rob wrote:You would have thought that the Birmingham Post would at least know a Land Rover when it DIDN'T see one!!