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Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 2:34 pm
by kevin
Had a bit of a 'should I shouldnt I' weekend
The vogue has been prepped for paint for the past week. Yesterday, I masked everything up, set the red halogen heaters up and left them on overnight. I have 2 oil filled rads that have been on for the past week keeping temps up.
Got up bright and early this morning to probably what has been the hardest frost this winter

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After a nice coffee or 2, I ventured into the garage to assess things. I build the garage to a decent spec with cavity walls etc and found it quite reasonable in there today and more importantly the heaters had done their job and the car was at a nice temperature.
I have kept all the paint and thinners in the utility so that was at a nice temperature too, so...I now have her in primer
She will be left now until next sat when I will rub it down and correct any areas I need too before applying a further primer coat.
The DeVilbiss gun I bought was easy to set up and for a complete novice I am happy so far...that may change soon though..lol
Thank you
Kev
Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:03 pm
by mach1rob
Well done

Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 3:08 pm
by JPB
Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 4:11 pm
by kevin
Many thanks chaps.
so, resisted the urge to go back into the garage after I finished spraying and cleaning.
Just been in in there to check the heaters are ok and i must say im really chuffed at the first coat. Really flat and shows no apparent defects or areas of concern. I will leave it all alone this week then do a quick black guide coat and flat things back. Hopefully I can get another coat of primer on next weekend and then move towards the colour.
One quick question from you more experienced guys, does the primer need a full week to dry out?
Kev

Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:15 am
by Grumpy Northener
One quick question from you more experienced guys, does the primer need a full week to dry out?
Don't know about the experienced bit

But no, I have on many occasions applied primer in the morning and had colour on the car the following day - sometimes on the same day if the primer was dry enough
Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:22 am
by TerryG
When I have been painting panels, the instructions from Paints4u say to allow it to flash off for 15 minutes then paint over. so that is what I did. I'll find some pics, my scuttle looks pretty good

Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 9:36 am
by tractorman
It depends on the primer though! I seem to remember that one celly-based one I used needed a day to cure before a second, thinner coat was applied. Otherwise, I usually left it for the quarter of an hour that others have mentioned.
I did have fun with a Volvo door (the one that got caught in the floods in 1988) after someone drove into the side of it and the second hand replacement door had been sprayed with aerosol stuff (perfect spraying too - I didn't spot it!). The celly reacted with the little bits I couldn't get off. The car was needed the next day (a niece's wedding or something), so I had to strip it all off and get it sprayed to top coat within about three hours!! We fitted it the next morning and he got to the wedding. I can't remember what month it was, but the owner supplied fast thinners because it was too cold for normal stuff - no, it wasn't summer!!
Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:29 pm
by jpsh120
When I did my engine bay, primer, colour coat and lacquer all went on in the space of 4-5 hours. You have to go careful with primer as it will take on moisture and then spoil the top coat in the form of micro blisters.
Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 12:36 pm
by TerryG
And don't do what I did when painting my tailgate and do it in direct sunshine or you get a very "matt" finish. I had to cut it back and re-lacquer.
Re: 1965 singer vogue recomission
Posted: Mon Jan 06, 2014 8:18 pm
by kevin
Got home quite handy from work today. A quick coffee and I got into the garage.
A bit of light, dry sanding (after a guide coat was applied) followed by a good hoover up, a good dose of panel wipe and a tac cloth and off I went for some more primer.
Getting the hang of it now and got a decent finish on this series of coat.
Will give it a day to dry (halogen heaters and oil filled rads are doing their job nicely) and then flat it back ready for the colour
Dropped the rims off at the powder coaters this morning, a stroke of luck means they are doing a large job in the shade I want, turn around time should be a lot quicker.
They seem quite a good set up and are going to blast them, dip them, prime them with some anti rust primer and then finish them in a shade that looks quite like landrover limestone...quite a good match for the original shade.
any views on if I should wet sand or dry sand the primer prior to colour?
Kev
