Practically Classics Forum

Martin Evans wrote:More likely Ieuan Wyn Jones .

I was thinking of the signer making it up as he went along being reminiscent of Redwood's famous "making it up national anthem" moment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIwBvjoLyZc

Watching it makes me cringe - and I'm English!

Oh yes I vaguely remember that. I don't know the words to it either (In any language) but I think of the National Anthem as God save the Queen, though I'd say the other anthem is perhaps the nicer tune but then that's purely a personal whim. The ancesters, of which I am aware, came from as far apart as Somerset and Cardigan; I am simply British (If we just consider the time, in the melting pot, since the Romans were here, I expect that applies to most of us). I was born in a part of England, that is now part of Wales but I don't know what that proves; if I had been born in Peking, that wouldn't make me Chinese. It was once said of Nye Bevan "He believed, as I believe, that a miner is a miner, whether he works in Durham or Glamorgan, that a steel worker is a steel worker, whether he works at Ebbw Vale, Llanwern, Scunthorpe or Sheffield" and I suppose that's how I see things.....not that you see many steel workers or miners these days; how about caller centre workers in Merthyr Tydfil or Gateshead

I'm British, too - until the Viet Jock, saltire waving, blue faced, nationalists start rattling their bagpipes in public at which point I become VERY English