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Re: Ban 'Fracking' gas extraction in the UK

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:28 pm
by jimmyybob
Personally i applaud the engineering achievements that make this kind of thing possible.
people still whinge about nuclear power stations and wind farms etc but when the lights go out for the last time people will finally realise we needed them.

Re: Ban 'Fracking' gas extraction in the UK

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:10 pm
by TerryG
I'm not sure we need wind farms. I still argue that with a 10 year life span and the maintenance required they hardly pay back the energy it took to create them. The same with current Solar technology, it just isn't efficient enough. In another 10 years it might be a serious energy source.
Nuclear on the other hand is a spectacular way of generating energy and I find it intriguing.
Shale Gas extraction is a very elegant way of getting natural gas. The traditional sources are going to run out sooner or later, having this alternative now is better than being at the mercy of the Russians.

Re: Ban 'Fracking' gas extraction in the UK

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:10 pm
by Luxobarge
jimmyybob wrote:Personally i applaud the engineering achievements that make this kind of thing possible.
people still whinge about nuclear power stations and wind farms etc but when the lights go out for the last time people will finally realise we needed them.
^^^WHS^^^

We need the gas. Go for it, I say.

Re: Ban 'Fracking' gas extraction in the UK

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:24 pm
by Mitsuru
Wait till they are doing it under your feet then you're tune will change!!!

Re: Ban 'Fracking' gas extraction in the UK

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:40 pm
by TerryG
I'll swap your shale gas extraction for my wind farm!

Re: Ban 'Fracking' gas extraction in the UK

Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2012 10:46 pm
by JPB
I jest about the wind farm. Without it, I'd have had to pay for my own TV aerial but, since all the aerials in the three villages were rendered useless by the machines being in the way between us and Pontop Pike, Scottish Power has been replacing all of the aerials with new ones, pointed at Chatton mast instead and complete with new amplifiers.

My turn came this Morning and the installer reckons that he hasn't had a day off in two Months but doesn't mind the amount SP are paying him to nip this potential problem in the bud.

Windmills? Love them, just glad that a burning one couldn't fall closer than the other side of the street, where I'd be close enough to capture it for youtube but far enough away to keep my eyebrows.
Actually, I think they're beautiful things to behold and the only way forward if we really can't put up with the odd tiny tremor in the interests of affordable domestic fuel.
Like I say, we all have to die at least the one time, what the hey?

Re: Ban 'Fracking' gas extraction in the UK

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:52 pm
by Martin Evans
DIfficult one this :!: Fossil fuels took millions of years to create and in the space of two centuries, we have used up on hell of a lot of them. We need to harness renewables (The thing is fossil fuels give you a lot of bang for your buck) and there are question marks over nuclear. Ofcourse the other issue is limiting consumption (By rationing if necessary, not pricing it to make it the preserve of the rich)but that's unpopular. Many people jump on the "Green" bandwagon, so long as it doesn't inconvenience them or (Heaven forbid) cramp their style :!: This is nothing new, as observed by the late Tony Hancock, in his sketch "Wild man of the woods". In it Hancock is going back to nature and chooses Clapham Common for his new home. Why..."So I'll be near the shops".

Re: Ban 'Fracking' gas extraction in the UK

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:07 pm
by hobby
Got it in one, Martin.

Re: Ban 'Fracking' gas extraction in the UK

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:26 pm
by rich.
i have read somewhere that there is around 80 years supply of uranium..

Re: Ban 'Fracking' gas extraction in the UK

Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:34 pm
by TerryG
The half-life of uranium-235 is approximately 700 million years. I think we have a while before worrying about running out.