Practically Classics Forum

JPB wrote:Not the case where the service for the area runs a zero tolerance policy on speeding. My speed awareness course was offered - and accepted - as an alternative to my accepting 3 points,
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Ultimately I had the last laugh as my licence, on its return to me after being away to have the marker applied,

Puzzled now. Why was there a marker when you accepted the alternative to points?
Errindoors took that option when caught doing 33 in a 30 zone, and didn't need to send in her licence.

The speedometer may indeed read over by that margin (and indeed those in both the Smart and the Jetta do just that), but had I challenged the fine, I'd have risked losing my licence for the more serious of having a vehicle that, by virtue of the under-reading speedometer, was technically unroadworthy. My defence would have been that the Dolomite's speedo is known for becoming inaccurate as it ages but they'd simply have said that I should have done something about it. Like fitting the new one that's been in the kitchen for ages. Would that the constabulary applied the same "zero tolerance" approach to proper criminals.

But as I started out with a restricted licence and had, a few years earlier - during a change of address, lost my B1 entitlement because of a DVLO cockup, the course fee was far less to fork out than the solicitor wanted to take on the licensing agency. And even then, I'd still not have gained a licence dated to expire only once I'd reached 70. It's an ill wind, etc.

Willy Eckerslyke wrote:.... Why was there a marker when you accepted the alternative to points?
Errindoors took that option when caught doing 33 in a 30 zone, and didn't need to send in her licence.

It's optional in cases where there are existing, but time-expired points on a licence. I had three on there from ages ago and didn't mind sending the licence off in the belief that those points would be removed, as indeed they were but on a 3-year licence, the course was supposed to be noted for information.
Your significant other's experience also demonstrates that the 10% thing only applies where it suits the powers that be in certain areas, or where a prosecution is made under the construction and use regs, a route that can be seriously costly for the poor motorist.

TerryG wrote:
Only 89?!?! put your foot down!

i was overloaded

is the honda acty considered classic yet??
i fancy another

Classic? Beyond a doubt! Buy one.

JPB wrote:Your significant other's experience also demonstrates that the 10% thing only applies where it suits the powers that be in certain areas, or where a prosecution is made under the construction and use regs, a route that can be seriously costly for the poor motorist.

Around here (Brunstrom's North Wales) at that time they only offered the course as an option for those doing 33 or 34. Less would have been ignored, more would have been a fine and points.

It doesn't even have to be a valid UK reg.

Mitsu put in my Moke's Victorian reg - 00886H - and apparently I was doing 34.2 mph in a 30 zone in Wallsend on 29th Feb.

It is very similar to the site I saw years ago.

Cheers,

That's just weird. How? Because Wallsend is a 20mph zone all the way from the top of Davy Bank by the ATS depot to the other end of the High Street, and between the High Street and the river on roads running North to South. This being because the current generation of high school students aren't as quick to get out of the way of traffic as their fitter, leaner predecessors used to be. Next time you plan to come to the North East and break our speed limits, please bring a heavier and potentially more damaging car in which to do it!

JPB, a little add-on to your piece on Wallsend and it's speed laws.
Talking to a woman who works on the High Street, she was going home for lunch driving towards the coast and noticed a police car behind her so she kept her speed below 20. The car followed her all the way through the limited area and then pulled her over.
The conversation went along the lines of "why were you driving so slowly". When she pointed out that the area was a 20 zone the bobby was puzzled and asked if she was sure.

"How long has it been that way?"
"For a few months".
"OH really? Is it a compulsory speed limit"

The woman's comments are not for publication!

Yes, I know the area very well having been born there but thankfully I managed to escape years ago.

If you click the 'view picture' tab you'll see its a set up, unless your car looks like an ugly new born..

harvey wrote:That's true in that case, but I would clarify it by saying that the +-10% is only valid at 30mph, it won't count for anything if you're doing 77 in a 70

10% is 10%; it's not 10% at one speed but only 5% at another.