End of an era?
Re: End of an era?
They have been reporting that for a while. It is responsible for an increase in orders with LR for those that need a defender. At least they have ditched the DC100 and have promised something rugged and simple to replace it.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Richard Moss
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I wonder what percentage of the component parts of the current Defender are the same as those used on the original?
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I can't think of a single one. The wheel nuts may be the same for defenders on steels but don't quote me on that.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Only the one individual piece that I could identify, and even that will be nylon these days and not Phenolic as per the original:
Still, Land Rover's loss will be Daimler's gain come 2016 as the recently reworked G-Wagen can't help but benefit. And yes, I know it cost more but seriously; all the farmers and foresters in the seriously inaccessible areas gave up on Land Rovers a long time back and have been using Toyotas and Mitsubishis, so potential buyers of Deafeners during the last few years are mainly those who want a plaything and to these, the cash isn't the issue.
Roll on 2016 and, while that time comes, buy a new Land Rover and mothball it. It'll lose less than the TSB.
Hmm, I see that there's an automatic option in the current catalogue......
Still, Land Rover's loss will be Daimler's gain come 2016 as the recently reworked G-Wagen can't help but benefit. And yes, I know it cost more but seriously; all the farmers and foresters in the seriously inaccessible areas gave up on Land Rovers a long time back and have been using Toyotas and Mitsubishis, so potential buyers of Deafeners during the last few years are mainly those who want a plaything and to these, the cash isn't the issue.
Roll on 2016 and, while that time comes, buy a new Land Rover and mothball it. It'll lose less than the TSB.
Hmm, I see that there's an automatic option in the current catalogue......J
"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true..
"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true..
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Not true, Western Power are working up the road with 2 "62" plate defenders replacing all the power poles. The new mobile phone mast in Uttoxeter was installed by a man with a 110 pickup, the wind turbines on the other side of the valley are serviced by a company running all land rovers. Defenders are serious work horses and they do earn their keep in industry. Nobody that wants a plaything buys a new defender, they all go for the 200/300 and just about the TD5 as the new ones are too expensive to write off while playing in the mud.
Several local farmers use defenders from a series 2 landy up to a brand new 130 that is on the next farm over. Japanese 4x4s have taken huge steps in to the market but the Defender still goes on and on and on.
Several local farmers use defenders from a series 2 landy up to a brand new 130 that is on the next farm over. Japanese 4x4s have taken huge steps in to the market but the Defender still goes on and on and on.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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Martin Evans
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In any of my fantasy collections, a Series Land Rover will feature (I don't think you will find a better towing barge). A customer worked in a local agricultural college and used to say that one of the biggest problems they had, was that local hill farmers are pathalogically disposed towards neglect and abuse of equipment. Someone else I know, used to work (As a fitter) at an Isuzu dealer and they used to have trouble with farmers breaking Troopers. In most (If not all cases) the farmers had overloaded the vehicles but in all of thoses cases, the farmers had always come back with "My Land Rover used to take it". I suggest you won't get a better destruction test, than some of our local farmersSeveral local farmers use defenders from a series 2 landy up to a brand new 130 that is on the next farm over. Japanese 4x4s have taken huge steps in to the market but the Defender still goes on and on and on.
I hope the basic idea continues......I could never see one of the new "Handbags" making it into my fantasy collection. The military will surely need something sturdy, that is easy to service in the field (I've slept under a Land Rover
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MG Midget 1500, MGB GT V8, Morris Minor Traveller 1275, MG Midget 1275 & too many bicycles.
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Any of the hill farms around here that still have LRs in service will be those whose leaf sprung Series 3s haven't yet fallen apart, but they haven't taken to the coil sprung varieties in the main, even though they've been affordable for some decades now.
Scottish Power came about a year back to put up the wind farm that appeared on agricultural land between the old NCB pit head site and the coast, so they had to drive from metalled B roads, through mud, across sand and finally over eight acres of assorted hardcore (the pithead baths, the canteen and the winding house reduced to a less intrusive state) to reach the site during that first few weeks. The only Land Rover product that appeared among the company's off roaders was the site foreman's newish Range Rover Sport, everything else - in other words the vehicles that would actually have to be abused every day for the year that the development took, from that initial marking right up while the final days of the tidying up that allegedly happened - had a mixture of Japanese and Indian brand logos. No complaints though, since they gave me a dozen excellent placements for the G-cat students.
I don't doubt that Defenders are still employed in some tasks but in these areas where they aren't, you can guarantee that the largest quantity of the dear old things will be seen at the schools twice a day and, if it's not constantly caked with clarts and carrying injured sheep down the side of a mountain, then it's a plaything because these are duties that would be every bit as ably served by a car.
Scottish Power came about a year back to put up the wind farm that appeared on agricultural land between the old NCB pit head site and the coast, so they had to drive from metalled B roads, through mud, across sand and finally over eight acres of assorted hardcore (the pithead baths, the canteen and the winding house reduced to a less intrusive state) to reach the site during that first few weeks. The only Land Rover product that appeared among the company's off roaders was the site foreman's newish Range Rover Sport, everything else - in other words the vehicles that would actually have to be abused every day for the year that the development took, from that initial marking right up while the final days of the tidying up that allegedly happened - had a mixture of Japanese and Indian brand logos. No complaints though, since they gave me a dozen excellent placements for the G-cat students.
I don't doubt that Defenders are still employed in some tasks but in these areas where they aren't, you can guarantee that the largest quantity of the dear old things will be seen at the schools twice a day and, if it's not constantly caked with clarts and carrying injured sheep down the side of a mountain, then it's a plaything because these are duties that would be every bit as ably served by a car.
J
"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true..
"Home is where you park it", so the saying goes. That may yet come true..
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If we use the "same broom, but with 2 new heads and 3 new handles" argument above, the "The world's longest-serving vehicle" claim gets beaten by Jeep as its Civilian models started being produced in 1945, three years before Land Rover.
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