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Grumpy Northener
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by Grumpy Northener » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:30 pm
Will almost be a shame to put paint on this, it looks fantastic in bare metal with all the work you've put in on it.
Very kind of you to say so - I am lucky that I have access to most of the facilities & equipment needed along with some of the tricks required that I have gleaned over the years
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices
http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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SirTainleyBarking
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by SirTainleyBarking » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:03 pm
Grumpy Northener wrote:Will almost be a shame to put paint on this, it looks fantastic in bare metal with all the work you've put in on it.
Very kind of you to say so - I am lucky that I have access to most of the facilities & equipment needed along with some of the tricks required that I have gleaned over the years
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Sod the base coat, go straight to clear
Landrovers and Welding go together like Bread and Butter. And in the wet they are about as structurally sound
Biting. It's like kissing except there's a winner
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Grumpy Northener
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by Grumpy Northener » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:16 pm
O/S/R Door
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The inner support had become a water trap hence rust had worked its through the skin
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Cut out and new metal ready for letting in - Flanged over the frame and the check strap aperture made good at the same time
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Cleaned up - thankfully not too many of these welding repairs left to do now
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices
http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Grumpy Northener
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by Grumpy Northener » Sun Mar 01, 2015 11:29 pm
The bottom of the frame was shot - we had a new repair section in stock so that saved quite a lot of time in making the section up
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It took quite a bit of trimming before I was happy with the fit but was quite a quick job to get welded in and cleaned up
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Then rehung to check panel gap & fit
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Just the window channel on the inner frame to sort where the lower 150mm has rotted out
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices
http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Grumpy Northener
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by Grumpy Northener » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:25 pm
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices
http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Grumpy Northener
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by Grumpy Northener » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:31 pm
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Hinge rebates sorted and doors rehung
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Leading edge of rear door had minor pinholes which were corrected with a little brazing then cleaned back
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Minor repairs to the top edge of the rear shroud
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Soon sorted
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices
http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Grumpy Northener
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by Grumpy Northener » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:45 pm
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Roof gutter edge just above the front offside door was in holes & very weak Only one thing for it - removed and a new section made up & formed
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Then welded in - I made the repair oversize on the leading edge and then just took it back to the correct profile with a large flat file
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A few odds to sort this weekend welding wise before we ready for the shell to visit to the restoration show
1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices
http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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Grumpy Northener
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by Grumpy Northener » Sat Apr 04, 2015 7:00 am
So I pushed on with works to the bodyshell at the Practical Classics Restoration Show last weekend - very little in the form of welding repairs are now required so I used lead loading has a demonstration on the club stand - (see separate thread on the show - which I will post over this weekend). Lead would have been used in factory seams / joints when the bodyshell was originally built - no polyester / cataloy fillers about in those days. I am going to lead the original joints & seams along with the repair areas where possible / practical - this will give a better quality of repair although to complete the final profiles I intend to use a very slight skim of a high quality polyester body filler.
The metal should be clean / sound prior to painting a solder paste upon the repair area - this is then heated in order to tin the metal and wiped clean with a damp cloth - lead is then placed to the repair area with heat - just lumps from the bar - don't worry about the shape / profile for now - once loaded a lead paddle is used with tallow (to prevent the hot lead sticking to the paddle) - just enough heat but not too much is required in order to get the paddle to push the lead into a rough profile - then a bodyfile is used to reduce the area to correct profile - some larger areas may require a reloading once you have the basic shape - it's a bit of a skill otherwise you have the lead running off the metalwork quicker than you can apply / shape it - apologies I don't really have images of the process has I was undertaking it - just the before and afters.
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1937 Jowett 8 - Project - in less pieces than the Jupiter
1943 Jowett Stationary Engine
1952 Jowett Jupiter - In lots of peices
http://Jowett.org/
1952 Jowett Javelin - Largely original
1973 Rover P6 V8 - Original / 22,000 miles
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suffolkpete
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by suffolkpete » Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:47 pm
And you made it look so easy!
1974 Rover 2200 SC
1982 Matra Murena 1.6
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TerryG
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by TerryG » Sat Apr 04, 2015 4:53 pm
I will admit to being a bit green eyed having seen the Javelin in person. I'd lacquer the steel so everyone could see how perfect the bodywork actually is.
Understeer: when you hit the wall with the front of the car.
Oversteer: when you hit the wall with the back of the car.
Horsepower: how fast you hit the wall.
Torque: how far you take the wall with you.
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